Reader
questions about The Hollow
Kingdom
By Clare B. Dunkle. New York: Henry
Holt, 2003.
Readers have written me to ask questions about the book. Here
are some of those questions and their answers. Although I still answer reader mail about this book,
I no longer add questions and answers to this page because I wrote this book over five years ago, and
I no longer trust my memory about its details.
WARNING: If you have
not read the book, please DO NOT
read this page. The questions won't interest you, and
they will ruin some of the book's best surprises.
ARE YOU GOING TO WRITE ANY MORE HOLLOW KINGDOM BOOKS?
WILL THIS BOOK EVER BE A MOVIE?
HOW CAN I TELL WHICH PRINTING OF THE BOOK I OWN?
IN THE BOOK IT SAID CATSPAW'S PAW WAS A LION'S
PAW, SO WHEN HE GROWS UP WILL HE BE MARAK CATPAW OR MARAK LIONSPAW?
SINCE CATSPAW HAS SOME OF KATE'S HAIR AND
SOME OF MARAK'S HAIR, AND MARAK'S IS LONGER, IS HIS HAIR
UNEVEN LENGTHS, OR ALL THE SAME, JUST DIFFERENT COLORS?
DO YOU EVER HAVE CONCERNS VOICED ABOUT THE
FACT THAT KATE, & ALL THE OTHER WIVES, ARE BASICALLY PRISONERS?
IS MARAK PSYCHIC? HOW DOES HE KNOW WHAT KATE
IS THINKING?
WHY DID THE SORCERER HAVE TIL?
WHY DOESN'T MARAK LIE? DID HE GET THE
STAMP OF TRUTH? ARE ALL GOBLINS AS TRUTHFUL AS MARAK?
DOES SEYLIN END UP MARRYING EMILY?
WHY DOES SEYLIN THINK HE LOOKS BAD?
WHAT IS THE KNIFE CUT ON MARAK'S ARM IF
HIS LINE IS ON KATE'S WRIST?
WHAT ARE THE KING'S WIFE CEREMONY TESTS
THAT AGATHA PERFORMS?
WHEN THE SORCERER ASKS KATE IF HER BRACELET LIGHTS
UP BY ITSELF OR DOES SHE WORK MAGIC ON IT SHE SUPPOSES IT GLOWS BY
ITSELF BUT, THEN IT GLOWS BRIGHTER. DOES IT GLOW BY ITSELF OR DOES
KATE UNKNOWINGLY WORK MAGIC ON IT?
WHAT IF THE KING'S WIFE CAN'T HAVE
CHILDREN, OR IF THE KING DIES BEFORE HE HAS A CHILD?
WHY COULDN'T MARAK HAVE A CHILD WITH HIS FIRST
WIFE? COULDN'T THEY EVEN TRY? COULD THEY GET A DIVORCE?
DID YOU BASE MARAK'S APPEARANCE ON THE
GOBLIN KING IN LABYRINTH?
WHY IS SEYLIN A CAT?
WHY ARE KATE AND EMILY NAMED KATE AND EMILY?
WHEN WILL THE HOLLOW KINGDOM COME OUT
AS A PAPERBACK BOOK?
WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THE NAME "SEYLIN"?
HOW ARE THE HOLLOW KINGDOM NAMES PRONOUNCED?
IS YOUR TRILOGY BASED ON THE FOLKTALE, "TAM
LIN"?
HOW DO GOBLINS MATE?
GOBLINS MATE WITH ANIMALS TO BRING NEW TRAITS
INTO THE MAGICAL MIX. BUT HOW CAN THEY, SINCE THEY ARE HUMANOID? DO
THEY CHANGE TO ANIMAL FORMS?
KATE MENTIONS THE BIBLE. IS SHE A CHRISTIAN?
ARE YOU?
WHEN
DOES THE BOOK TAKE PLACE?
IF I ENJOYED
THIS BOOK, WHAT OTHER BOOKS MIGHT I ENJOY?
MARAK'S PERSONALITY DOESN'T
REALLY MATCH HIS APPEARANCE, DOES IT?
WHAT IS MARAK'S FULL NAME? WHAT WAS HIS FATHER'S
FULL NAME?
HOW OLD IS MARAK AT THE
START OF THE BOOK?
WHY DOESN'T KATE
WORK ELF MAGIC TO SAVE HERSELF FROM MARAK?
IF THE TRUCE CIRCLE PREVENTS
FORCE, HOW CAN MARAK SCARE KATE AND EMILY THERE WITH HIS MAGICAL
LIGHTNING AND WIND?
WHY DOESN'T KATE
NOTICE WHEN SHE BITES MARAK'S THUMB THAT HIS BLOOD IS BROWN?
WHY WOULD THE DWARVES
DO SO MUCH WORK BUILDING THINGS FOR THE GOBLINS?
WHERE DID YOU GET THE
IDEA FOR HOW MARAK LOOKS?
WHERE DID MARAK GET HIS
NAME?
DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE
IS A BIG TALKING BLACK CAT IN ANOTHER BOOK?
WHAT DOES THE GOBLIN KING'S BEDROOM LOOK LIKE?
ARE YOU GOING TO WRITE ANY MORE HOLLOW KINGDOM BOOKS?
I appreciate the desire to see more books about this world, but
I hate to repeat myself. At this point, you readers have three books
in this world: The Hollow Kingdom,
Close Kin, and In
the Coils of the Snake. For three books, I was able to
use this world to say new things and to take you readers to new
places, but I think that by the fourth book, I would be in familiar
territory. You love the first book because it surprises you. Don't
you still want to be surprised? I can do that by taking you to new
worlds like the one in By These Ten Bones.
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WILL THIS BOOK EVER BE A MOVIE?
I doubt it. Not every good book makes a good movie. The Hollow Kingdom
books are all about ambiguity, prejudice, and perception. No one
in the trilogy is completely good, and very few people are thoroughly
bad, either. I wanted to make readers think about that. I didn't
want to give you easy answers about who to like and who to hate.
Movies work best with simple characters and lots of action, but
that isn't why I wrote the trilogy. I won't let a movie
director turn my characters into something they aren't just
to make a more exciting movie.
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HOW CAN I TELL WHICH PRINTING OF THE BOOK I OWN?
The Hollow Kingdom has changed in subtle ways with each
of its first three printings. From now on, it should stay the same.
The first printing had jacket
art by Megan Lightell Timmons, as well as blue and brown boards
on the book itself. If this is what you own, congratulations! They
are long gone now; even I only own five of them. If your book has
blue and brown boards but the Matt
Manley cover, you own a rejacketed first printing. When the
cover art changed, Holt replaced the old cover on the remaining
stock of the first printing copies.
Printings after the first one have cranberry red boards and a black
spine; they also feature a silver moon and star on the front of
the book, as well as the Matt
Manley cover. The second printing has no series title on the
title page. The third printing has the series title at the top of
the title page and a correction to a typo on page 227. In the first
and second printings, that page reports that Marak is using his
convalescence in a review of the King's Wife Chronicles, and
this is wrong. Why would he do that? He has a happy marriage, so
those chronicles have nothing further to teach him. Instead, he
is using his convalescence in a review of the King's Chronicles,
a much more logical thing for him to do.
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IN THE BOOK IT SAID CATSPAW'S PAW WAS A LION'S PAW,
SO WHEN HE GROWS UP WILL HE BE MARAK CATPAW OR MARAK LIONSPAW?
A goblin King's nickname is just that—a nickname.The
official word for this is a "descriptive," but the parents
have the right to choose that descriptive as they wish. This means
that Catspaw will stay Marak Catspaw even though he really has a
lion's paw. It would be too confusing to change it. And since
there already was a Marak Lionclaw, having a Marak Lionspaw would
be confusing, too! (The goblins know that a King couldn't
really have a cat's paw—it would be too small to fit
on a goblin King.)
In English (one of the prince's two native languages), "catspaw"
is an unlucky name to have because a catspaw is a fool duped into
doing someone else's dirty work. The goblin prince knows this
about his name, and he's determined not to be made into a
fool. This may be one reason why, as he ages, he's so keen
on practicing military magic.
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SINCE CATSPAW HAS SOME OF KATE'S HAIR AND SOME OF MARAK'S
HAIR, AND MARAK'S IS LONGER, IS HIS HAIR UNEVEN LENGTHS, OR
ALL THE SAME, JUST DIFFERENT COLORS?
Actually, Kate's hair is longer than Marak's hair, but
that doesn't matter for Catspaw's hair; his hair is
short when he's born (just as ours is), and Kate makes sure
that it's always kept cut in a short haircut because she hates
Marak's wild hair so much.
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DO YOU EVER HAVE CONCERNS VOICED ABOUT THE FACT THAT KATE, &
ALL THE OTHER WIVES, ARE BASICALLY PRISONERS?
Yes, and I have grave concerns about this, myself! My books are
in no way supposed to suggest that this behavior is proper, but
only that this is something that bright young people have been dealing
with for centuries—and, in fact, are dealing with still. Even
though the books present some cases in which women come to terms
with their treatment, each book also presents women who have come
to tragedy through it. I deliberately chose this very painful subject
for my books because I feel that we Americans have a problem with
confronting reality as regards this issue. We have never confronted
the cultural issue of imprisonment of others. We pretend that we
don't do it at all until we feel we need to do it, and then
we vilify the group we're ready to imprison.
It is sadly true that the King's Wives are only prisoners
in their new culture, but these members of another race are at least
treated well, accorded a high social status, and allowed free movement
throughout the entire underground realm. We Americans have not had
such a good record in our 200+-year history of dealing fairly with
members of other races, and we represent one of the most enlightened
set of philosophical values ever put into practice. What good did
the Constitution do the native Americans, or the Japanese Americans
during World War II, a scant 60 years ago? What about all the tap-dancing
our Founding Fathers did around the slavery issue, and what about
the issues of civil rights? There are prisoners being held right
now by our own government without either arrest or trial, and the
whole world has been horrified by pictures of their treatment.
My feeling is that books for teens should not present an unreal
world, a sanitized place of simple cultural values. All cultures
have found it necessary to deprive some people of their freedom,
and our present culture is no exception. We should not present this
as a good thing, but we should also not present it as an impossibly
evil thing engaged in only by Nazis and villains, something that
we "good people," thank heavens, need never worry about.
Instead, we need to study it honestly as a problem even of "good
people." Until we do that, I don't think we'll
ever improve our deplorable track record on this issue. We will
continue to force our own prisoners into subhuman roles in order
to soothe our conflicted consciences whenever we deprive a group
of its freedom.
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IS MARAK PSYCHIC? HOW DOES HE KNOW WHAT KATE IS THINKING?
No, Marak isn't psychic, but he's a very clever schemer
himself, so he's very quick to think through what someone
else might be planning. However, he's very slow to figure
out how people are feeling—that's why, when Kate is
terrified, he'll say something like this: "You seem
upset." He genuinely doesn't understand how she feels.
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WHY DID THE SORCERER HAVE TIL?
The sorcerer has killed Til's parents to steal her, and he
intends to work some spell that calls for some part of her. His
magic is based on animal and people parts because that's what
the demons enjoy: they don't care about the body part, but
they do like to cause pain and suffering. He tells Kate that he's
going to use her liver and her left ear in spells, and he has a
whole roomful of animals to use for spare parts. Some, like the
one-eyed bear and the three-pawed mouse, already have parts missing.
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WHY DOESN'T MARAK LIE? DID HE GET THE STAMP OF TRUTH? ARE
ALL GOBLINS AS TRUTHFUL AS MARAK?
No, Marak has not had the Stamp of Truth. That spell forces people
to tell the truth, but Marak isn't forced. Goblins just think
that lying is stupid and immoral, and they're very proud of
telling the truth. It's important in their culture, just as
individual freedom and independent thought are important in our
American culture.
Some goblins do tell lies, but goblins don't have much of
a weakness for lying because they are so insensitive in their feelings.
They don't mind telling you anything, no matter how much it
might upset you—that won't bother them! We usually lie
because we're afraid of a person's reaction, but they
don't feel that way at all.
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DOES SEYLIN END UP MARRYING EMILY?
The question is Does Emily end up marrying Seylin? That's
answered in Close Kin (Book II), which came out in October
2004.
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WHY DOES SEYLIN THINK HE LOOKS BAD?
Seylin's fellow children and adults have been raised to think
of the elves as inferior. Even his own parents have been horrified
about his looks. We learn from our friends and family what looks
good and what doesn't: if we grew up like Seylin, with people
laughing at us, or wincing and looking away when they saw us, we'd
think we looked awful, too. My beautiful sister-in-law Millie, who
is Hispanic, thought that she was thoroughly ugly when she was growing
up because in her little Texas town, only "white" children
were praised for their looks—Millie thought she needed blond
hair and blue eyes to be pretty.
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WHAT IS THE KNIFE CUT ON MARAK'S ARM IF HIS LINE IS ON KATE'S
WRIST?
The cut on his arm is just a cut—no big deal to it. He has
to cut himself to add some blood to the mix, but his cut heals as
a plain old scar. Marak has two such scars, one from each marriage.
The spell that gives indications of the future is a one-time-only
spell. A goblin King can work it several times, but it has to be
worked on someone who has never had the spell before. That means
he could not work this spell on himself the second time if he married
twice, as Marak has done. It has to be worked on the bride.
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WHAT ARE THE KING'S WIFE CEREMONY TESTS THAT AGATHA PERFORMS?
Mostly, these are tests for health in all the different systems:
lungs, eyes, brain, etc. This is why they take place before the
ceremony begins: if something is wrong, the King will have to come
try to heal the damage, or even call off the ceremony if it's
something that he can't heal.
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WHEN THE SORCERER ASKS KATE IF HER BRACELET LIGHTS UP BY ITSELF
OR DOES SHE WORK MAGIC ON IT SHE SUPPOSES IT GLOWS BY ITSELF BUT,
THEN IT GLOWS BRIGHTER. DOES IT GLOW BY ITSELF OR DOES KATE UNKNOWINGLY
WORK MAGIC ON IT?
Actually, both. The bracelet does light up by itself, so anyone
who wears it in the dark can use it. But Kate's powerful magic
affects the bracelet when she thinks about it. If she worked at
it, she could control its light much more closely.
Kate is working lots of unconscious magic in this scene. If she
weren't so magical, she could never break through the sorcerer's
spell to reach Marak and help him free himself from it.
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WHAT IF THE KING'S WIFE CAN'T HAVE CHILDREN, OR IF THE
KING DIES BEFORE HE HAS A CHILD?
These problems certainly have finished off their fair share of human
dynasties, but the First Fathers were extremely intelligent and
able to forestall them magically. For instance, the tests that Agatha
performs on Kate before the wedding are medical tests, and they
detect a variety of conditions that would affect both general health
and fertility. Kate passes them all. If she had failed one, the
women would have summoned the goblin King, who could probably have
healed the medical condition, depending on exactly what was wrong.
That's why these tests take place before the wedding actually
begins—so that he can take care of any problems that turn
up or call off the ceremony if they are too serious.
If the King dies childless, then the ballgame is over. There is
no substitute for the King because he isn't just a ruler:
he holds the magical key to the race itself. Another lord may step
forward to try to hold the people together and defend them, but
they will never again be what they were, and their magic will eventually
die away—even though it may take a long time.
But, because the First Fathers knew this, they designed their Kings
for survival. Very, very few Kings die violently, and then it only
happens when they've been careless or stupid and ended up
facing many warriors alone. The Kings don't become ill or
fall off ladders. Their unique defense magic is always on the alert,
even when they're tiny babies, and their bodies have a strong
capacity for self-renewal. The innate magic of the King is an almost
overwhelming force. Properly taught, a careful King has no real
worries about his own lifespan: he'll make it to about a hundred
years.
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WHY COULDN'T MARAK HAVE A CHILD WITH HIS FIRST WIFE? COULDN'T
THEY EVEN TRY? COULD THEY GET A DIVORCE?
They could try, but the magical formation of the Heir has to have
input from both King and Wife. Annie was insane and believed that
the goblins were just a nightmare she was having. Since she believed
that Marak did not exist outside her own imagination, she could
contribute nothing to the magical formation of their child.
No, divorce is not possible: try telling Charm that it's time
to move on! Murder is possible: as Kate discovered, the goblin King
can kill his own wife. But none of them ever has, and Marak was
unwilling to do so, especially since he knew his wife had gone mad
through his own carelessness. He just hoped that he would have enough
time to try again.
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DID YOU BASE MARAK'S APPEARANCE ON THE GOBLIN KING IN LABYRINTH?
Of course not. Marak is an old, ugly, bowlegged goblin, whereas
David Bowie is gorgeous. The man is to die for! What's not
to like about the Glitter Rock King? Many readers are in denial
about Marak's true looks, and I don't blame you a bit.
Bowie and Connelly are a dreamy pair, and thinking about them certainly
makes Kate's marriage less depressing. But if you want to
see what Marak really looks like, you're watching the wrong
film.
Pull out Jackson's Lord of the Rings trilogy and
find some orcs instead. You'll see that nasty, been-drowned
skin, the awful, bony skull, the graceless horsetail hair, the pointed
teeth... I swear, sometimes I get all nostalgic and affectionate
just watching the orcs trot by with their tire-irons, I've
worked with goblins so long! But you may find it a little easier
to see Kate's side of the marriage issue if you take a good
look at them.
Did I steal Marak from Jackson? No. We both read Tolkien. And Tolkien
read the Scandinavian myths. (Come to think of it, so did I.) That's
all.
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WHY IS SEYLIN A CAT?
That's easy. I love cats! I have always owned at least two
cats, and sometimes three. And because black cats are so common,
my cats are usually black. At one point, all three of my cats were
black! It's purely accidental: we take in the cats that God
chooses to send us.
At this point, I own one black cat and one gray tabby. Both cats
perform tricks to earn their dinner every night, just like the dog
does. In fact, they learned this from the dog, we think. My tabby
cat, Tor, is the smartest. He can roll over, lie down (in a crouch,
or it doesn't count), and beg. He can even play dead: when
we point a finger at him and yell, "Bang!" he flops
over onto his side.
When I came to write the bonfire scene, I just chucked in a magical
black cat for fun. I knew my daughters and Emily would be delighted.
And I knew that Marak wouldn't bring anything too strange
to the bonfire: he didn't want to alarm the girls too soon.
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WHY ARE KATE AND EMILY NAMED KATE AND EMILY?
These young women come from a traditional, rule-bound culture: they
are gentlewomen in 1815-or-so England, for whom many things are
forbidden that would be allowed even to the farming and servant
class. Consequently, their names follow the kinds of rules that
they themselves are expected to follow. I found the names in books
that were written at the time, like Jane Austen's novels,
and took them from women in history at that time. "Katherine,"
it seems, was the name of a girl in every gentleman's family
in Regency England, and, frankly, there are only certain nicknames
of "Katherine" that I can stand. (I'm allergic
to "Kitty," which was a popular nickname in Kate's
time.) Emily owes her name to Emily Brontë, who was a wonderfully
strong-willed woman.
I chose those names because they were so typical a choice for the
sort of traditional, conservative man that their father was. We
can see that he was like this through Kate's own desire to
follow her father's rules even after he's dead and gone.
She loves those manners and rules and harbors an abiding belief
that they are a good and healthy thing: she stays an English lady
to the end of her days, even after a long life in a magical kingdom.
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WHEN WILL THE HOLLOW KINGDOM COME OUT AS A PAPERBACK BOOK?
It is scheduled to be released as a paperback in September of 2006.
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WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THE NAME "SEYLIN"?
I named Seylin at his very first appearance at the bonfire. At the
time, I didn't know he was a shape-shifter or an elvish goblin;
I had worked out the major plot but not many of the minor details.
I hadn't even named Marak yet; I had only named Thaydar, who
was also standing nearby.
"What's a good name for a magical black cat?"
I asked myself. And I began rummaging around in my mind for black-cat
names. I've lived with black cats for decades, so naming them
is something I'm used to. Seylin, I decided. I have no associations
with the name at all. The only thing that occurs to me is that it's
similar to the name in my favorite poem: Conrad Aiken's "Morning
Song of Senlin" has been my favorite bit of verse since I
was a child, and I think it always will be. I just learned from
the Net that there's a Pokemon Seylin, but I'm sure
I'd ever heard of him. I know that Seylin is a relatively
rare name, but it certainly exists with reasonable regularity—there's
even a skateboard park named Seylin. I can only assume that at some
point in the past, I met a cat with that name. What I didn't
know is that Seylin is often a girl's name!
But the effort of naming Seylin and Thaydar had taken its toll.
I decided that that was the very last time I would ever come up
with a fantasy name out of my own personal brain, with no justification.
I chose a language to work with (Assyrian), and I used it for all
goblin names thereafter. Assyrian is uncommon enough that no one
is likely to have lots of mental associations with my goblin names,
although the words really do exist: someone sent me a clipping of
a wedding announcement of a Mr. and Mrs. Marak the other day.
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HOW ARE THE HOLLOW KINGDOM NAMES PRONOUNCED?
English names are pronounced normally:
Celia: SEE-lia
Goblin names are pronounced in typical American style, with unaccented
vowels generally falling into schwa sounds. (My Webster's
New World Dictionary defines the schwa as the sound of the
a in ago, the e in agent, the
i in sanity, the o in comply,
or the u in focus.)
Marak: MARE-ik
Second syllable vowel is a schwa; vowels rhyme more or less with
vowels in garret or parrot.
Thaydar: THAY-dar
Soft th, as in thin, and first syllable rhymes
with flay. Second syllable's vowel is not a schwa
sound, but rhymes with car.
Seylin: SAY-lin
Second syllable rhymes with thin.
Sayada: Say-YA-duh
Middle syllable vowel sounds like the a in father;
final syllable vowel is a schwa, like the a in ago.
Dibah: DEE-buh
Second syllable vowel is a schwa.
Katoo: ka-TOO
First syllable vowel sounds like cat. The two syllables
have almost equal stress.
Dayan: DAY-un
Second syllable vowel is a schwa, like the a in ago.
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IS YOUR TRILOGY BASED ON THE FOLKTALE, "TAM LIN"?
No: although my trilogy is based on British folklore, it isn't
based on "Tam Lin" at all. There are many abduction
folktales in the British tradition that come much closer to my trilogy
than "Tam Lin" does; properly speaking, "Tam Lin"
is not an abduction tale at all, even though some versions allude
to the abduction of the human knight before the story begins.
"Childe Roland" is a much closer antecedent to my trilogy.
Concerning that tale, some scholars assume that Burd Ellen has been
stolen to pay the fairy teind, but there is no evidence for this
in the story as I learned it. And I find it interesting that while
the most famous retelling calls Ellen's captor the King of
Elfland, one scholar calls him a goblin king. This highlights the
confusion in British folklore between the beautiful and the ugly
magical races: sometimes "fairies" are described as
misshapen.
If you are interested in the ideas that I took from folklore to
build the trilogy, you may find them on the Creating
Fantasy Worlds page under the Fiction Writing section of this
website.
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HOW DO GOBLINS MATE?
In the Hollow Kingdom world, the goblin high families (goblins who
can speak) are descended originally from human women, as are all
of the elves. This means that they mate just like we do. The beast
goblins, on the other hand, are descended from animals and therefore
mate according to their species types (some of the bird goblins
lay eggs). For more information about beast goblins, see the next
question.
The only problem that both high-family goblins and elves face, whether
in a marriage with their own race or with a human being, is that
their mating is much less likely than ours to result in a pregnancy.
Goblin genetics becomes wilder the more "purely" goblin
it becomes (i.e., the more goblin-goblin marriages are in a person's
immediate ancestry). Ultimately, this means that there is no possibility
for a viable match-up on the cellular level: the resulting baby
might have genetic coding for fangs, beak, feathers, pelt, zebra
stripes, leopard spots, bat wings, prehensile tail, and snake eyes
all at once, and not even goblin magic can bring about a child like
that. This is why goblins have to keep bringing human or elf blood
back into their race. The more consistent genetics of the other
races stabilizes theirs.
Elves do not usually have this problem of sterility because their
genetic information is even less variable than our own. However,
elves are very sensitive, and if elf women are stressed, they usually
cannot become pregnant. This parallels the situation in a number
of different animal species, where females under stress don't
bear young. Zoos have to deal with this problem frequently.
There are four sentient races in the Hollow Kingdom world: elves,
goblins, humans, and dwarves. Not every race can produce offspring
with every other race, however (even assuming that they would care
to). Only goblin males can have children with females of all three
other races. Elf and dwarf men can have children only with females
of their own kind. Human men can have children with human or elf
women. This is the reason why Marak immediately refers to Kate's
elvish ancestor as "she" as soon as he realizes that
his bride is an elf-human cross. There must have been an elf woman
married to a human man because an elf man married to a human woman
could never have had a child.
The elf and goblin Kings are a separate case entirely. Magic, not
genetics, controls their fertility and offspring. In magical homage
to their distant ancestors, the bodiless First Fathers, the Kings
must never marry their own kind. And they are thoroughly goblin
or thoroughly elf, no matter how many women of other races have
contributed to their ancestry.
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GOBLINS MATE WITH ANIMALS TO BRING NEW TRAITS INTO THE MAGICAL MIX.
BUT HOW CAN THEY, SINCE THEY ARE HUMANOID? DO THEY CHANGE TO ANIMAL
FORMS?
The First Fathers, who were invisible, bodiless beings, got excited
about the possibility of the physical universe. You can either think
of them as mythological beings, like the West Wind in Longfellow's
poem, who fathers a child with Hiawatha's mother, or you can
think of them as scientists, tinkering with the DNA of earthly women
to get the results they wanted. In any case, the founders of the
elvish race went with a very narrow concept of what they wanted
to take from the physical world, and they excluded everything else.
This means that the elves are more limited in appearance even than
humans—there are only certain combinations of hair/eye color,
for instance, because that's what the First Fathers of the
elves thought beautiful—and nothing else would do.
The First Fathers of the goblins, by contrast, went very broad in
their thinking. They thought that humans—and even more, elves—were
terribly limited in form, and boring as well. They wanted to find
a way to channel any animal trait into their "master"
race. So they set up a two-tiered system: beast goblins and the
goblin high families.
The beast goblins are truly animals. They cannot reason or speak,
and they generally have a distinct animal form. The high families,
on the other hand, are the rational, human-like race. These two
levels cannot interbreed. They mate only within their own levels
of the system: high families with other high family goblins or with
the sentient races (elves, humans, and dwarves); and beast goblins
with other beast goblins or with animals of their type. There are
bird goblins, mammalian goblins, etc. It's a whole menagerie.
The exception is that there are no insect or spider goblins because
the First Fathers couldn't work out the problems of mixing
such wildly different genetics.
Within the high families as well, goblins are often known by their
most dominant traits (the guard Katoo, for instance, is a cat goblin).
But these traits are no more fixed than a certain hair color or
a type of nose among our human families, and they don't determine
who can marry whom. Katoo's friend Brindle, for instance,
has some dog traits, but he is married to a bird goblin with wings.
Their daughter Penelope has snake eyes.
There aren't very many beast goblins in the trilogy, but you
do see beast goblins, for instance, in the King's valet and
his assistant, who is in charge of shoes. They're simian goblins—ape
goblins. Beast goblins may have work assigned to them, but they
aren't slaves or beasts of burden: the goblins use regular
domesticated animals for that. Marak is King of the whole race,
both beasts and high families. He has to govern them all fairly.
Although it's never stated, this is the obvious reason why
goblins never eat a female animal. She might have mated with a beast
goblin; ergo, she might be a mother to goblin young. Goblins consider
all females of all races or species taboo to harm, therefore, and
never kill them. They simply say that all mothers are sacred.
The Hollow Kingdom, incidentally, is not the first goblin
book to bring up the concept of both goblin "people"
and goblin "animals." MacDonald's The Princess
and the Goblin also has this two-tiered system in his goblin
society.
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KATE MENTIONS THE BIBLE. IS SHE A CHRISTIAN? ARE YOU?
Kate is indeed a Christian: specifically, she is a Low-Church Anglican,
a member of the branch of the Church of England that opposes elaborate
ritual and is strongly evangelical. Among other things, the Low-Church
Anglicans of Kate's day strongly disapproved of anything relating
to the Church of Rome, so it would doubtless horrify poor Kate to
learn that she is the brainchild of a Catholic (me).
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WHEN DOES THE BOOK TAKE PLACE?
The book takes place in about 1815, during the Regency period of
English history. Influenced both by the styles that have emerged
from the French Revolution and by the growing interest in Roman
and Greek classical forms, clothing has become simpler and less
fussy. The women are wearing gowns with very high waists and no
train; because these gowns are not very revealing, the corset has
been temporarily discarded. Hence, Kate is very unhappy when the
goblins put her into a gown that has a tight, revealing bodice.
The men are still wearing knee-length breeches with stockings on
formal occasions, as Marak does at court, but they are also wearing
trousers or breeches with riding boots. The George Washington-style
wig, formerly worn by every gentleman, has almost completely disappeared,
except for servants in livery, members of the judiciary, and the
occasional eccentric who doesn't mind being behind the fashion.
Instead, men are wearing their hair "Roman" style, in
what is called the Brutus cut (this is, more or less, the style
that we have to this day). Pocket watches are now a relatively ordinary
item of a gentleman's dress, but people still write with a
goose feather quill. The railroad has not yet revolutionized transportation,
although the Industrial Revolution has already begun in the form
of textile factories, where cloth is woven on large machines. The
rigid geometry of the Hallow Hill formal gardens is currently the
height of fashion.
Kate is influenced most strongly by Milton and Shakespeare, as well
as such writers as Swift, Alexander Pope, Coleridge, and Wordsworth,
the latter of whom are still writing at this time. This period of
history itself is best captured in the works of Jane Austen, who
clearly conveys the complex manners of the day. Kate has been raised
to define her sense of self-worth by her careful adherence to these
social rules; hence, in dealing with Marak, she is as aware of her
behavior as she is of her safety, and even in the most dangerous
situations, a part of her brain is always concerned with whether
or not she is acting like a lady. Instead of feeling stifled by
these social rules, Kate finds them comforting and believes that
they help her to be a better person. Marak, on the other hand, values
aspects of Kate's personality that she has not been taught
to appreciate, such as her bold courage and her quick-witted replies.
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IF I ENJOYED THIS BOOK, WHAT OTHER BOOKS MIGHT I ENJOY?
Several astute reviewers have noticed a similarity between The
Hollow Kingdom and Elizabeth Marie Pope's The Perilous
Gard. Both books are rooted in the British folklore tradition,
and both concern a strong-willed Englishwoman tangling with "the
people under the Hill." (Both women are even named Kate, although
this is hardly surprising: Catherine was an enormously popular name
in England for centuries.) While my tale is broadly magical, Pope
looks to history instead, painting her "fairy folk"
as descendents of the tribes who inhabited Britain before the Romans
came. The Perilous Gard richly deserved its Newbery Honor
award, and it remains my favorite fantasy book. Pope's The
Sherwood Ring, a ghost story about the Revolutionary War, might
also provide a reading experience similar to The Hollow Kingdom.
Another author to whom I feel I am indebted for my writing style
is Ursula K. Le Guin. Her Tombs of Atuan in particular
has a magical, romantic feel and reminds me of my own books. For
older readers, the writer who can weave a subtle, mystical tale
better than anyone is Isak Dinesen, a.k.a. Baroness Karen Blixen.
She can make the most mundane setting yield the most beautiful results,
and I especially enjoy her short stories. "Babette's
Feast" is a treasure.
Although every book is different, readers who have enjoyed The
Hollow Kingdom will hopefully enjoy the rest of my trilogy.
Close Kin, the second book, comes out in October of 2004,
and the third and last book, In the Coils of the Snake,
follows a year later.
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MARAK'S PERSONALITY DOESN'T REALLY MATCH HIS APPEARANCE,
DOES IT?
The idea that personality and appearance should match is an interesting
one. In theory, only ill health or malnutrition would link a bad
appearance with a bad personality. In practice, however, we humans
are a social breed, and our own prejudices doubtless help to form
unpleasant personalities in less attractive people. If we expect
an ugly person not to be witty or interesting, that ugly person
will have a hard time developing the confidence to be so. Our expectations
wind up shaping the reality.
Marak has been raised with none of these prejudices. My goblins
appreciate their own monstrous forms and actually believe themselves
to be members of a superior race. Moreover, Marak has known from
early childhood that he is to be a king and that his entire people
will obey him without question. When the book begins, he has been
the ruler for over fifteen years and is accustomed to giving orders
and making important decisions. Accordingly, he speaks with authority
and a great deal of confidence. He is perfectly at ease with himself
and has none of the self-conscious awkwardness that an ugly human
would have learned through the ridicule of others.
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WHAT IS MARAK'S FULL NAME? WHAT WAS HIS FATHER'S FULL
NAME?
Goblin Kings are all known by the word Marak, meaning Lord
in the goblin language, and by a descriptive word taken from one
of their unique traits. Adele's King is Marak Dogclaw. While
Kate's Marak could be Marak Horsehair, there already was a
previous King with this name, so he is Marak Sixfinger. This is
a good thing for Kate: she could have been stuck with Marak the
Antlered or Marak Batwing!
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HOW OLD IS MARAK AT THE START OF THE BOOK?
Marak is sixty-one years old when the book begins.
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WHY DOESN'T KATE WORK ELF MAGIC TO SAVE HERSELF FROM MARAK?
Kate's untaught magic does try to save her. It guides her
to the truce circle, for instance, and it makes her very uncomfortable
around goblins even when she doesn't know what they are. That
keeps her from letting Marak put her onto his horse. But magic in
the Hollow Kingdom world is like mathematics: having a talent for
it isn't enough.
Most elf magic consists of speaking a phrase in the elvish language
while concentrating on a certain constellation, star, or planet.
Some of it involves writing a special magical symbol as well. If
Kate knew any elvish, she might begin to work untrained magic. But
because she doesn't know the language of her ancestors, her
magic has very little chance to help her.
The goblin King, by contrast, has spent thirty years of his life
formally studying magic and the magical languages. He still spends
time practicing or researching it almost every day.
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IF THE TRUCE CIRCLE PREVENTS FORCE, HOW CAN MARAK SCARE KATE AND
EMILY THERE WITH HIS MAGICAL LIGHTNING AND WIND?
A goblin King and an elf King met together thousands of years before
Kate's time to make the magic of the truce circle. They wanted
to create a place where an elf or a goblin would be safe even if
his counterpart wanted to kidnap or kill him. They thought of the
various things that could happen and tried to build magical safeguards
against each of them.
All physical force against someone else is completely useless inside
the truce circle, whether the victim is conscious or not. Thus,
when Kate is unconscious, Marak cannot simply pick her up and carry
her away. The truce circle magic won't allow that to happen.
Marak can heal her, and he can hold her hand, but the minute she
tries to get away, she can easily pull free from him.
In other ways, the truce circle allows the "victim"
to decide what is appropriate or not. Marak indulges his temper
in a fit of lightning and wind, and as long as no one protests,
that lightning and wind can continue. But the minute that Kate complains,
the truce circle magic stops it. Marak doesn't stop it himself.
Persuasion is not the same thing as force, even when it is magical,
and the original founders of the circle didn't bother to make
spells against it because full-blooded elves and goblins aren't
affected by persuasion spells. Kate's mixed elf-human blood
shows in her actions when Marak works a persuasion spell. She understands
what is happening, and she tries to control herself, but she can't
quite escape its influence. Emily, much more strongly human than
her sister, falls under the spell right away. Neither one is saved
by being in the truce circle.
Later, Marak uses magical persuasion again when he sees Kate becoming
agitated and pacing back and forth. Concerned about her mental state,
he magically suggests that she sit down. Kate doesn't identify
this suggestion as a threat and readily falls under its influence.
She only stands up again after Marak has left the circle.
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WHY DOESN'T KATE NOTICE WHEN SHE BITES MARAK'S THUMB
THAT HIS BLOOD IS BROWN?
During the King's Wife Ceremony, Kate is shocked to learn
that Marak has dark brown blood. But she has already seen his blood.
Earlier in the book, she bites him when he comes to the Hall to
try to steal her, and she notices afterwards that he is bleeding.
However, it is quite dark in Kate's room at the time. Twilight
has fallen, and she has no way to light a candle. She can't
distinguish colors in the gloom, so she doesn't realize that
Marak's blood isn't red.
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WHY WOULD THE DWARVES DO SO MUCH WORK BUILDING THINGS FOR THE GOBLINS?
They do the building work because the goblins do all the rest of
the work. Goblins farm, harvest, cook the food, and weave the dwarves'
clothes. That leaves the dwarves free to mine, build, and work with
stone and metal. Also, the dwarves love to have an audience. The
goblins think up projects for them and admire their finished work.
The goblins and dwarves have cooperated in their jointly-owned home
for thousands of years, ever since Marak Lionclaw moved in with
them and magically created the valley under the lake. For instance,
the spell that Marak uses to stick Hugh Roberts to the ceiling is
a goblin spell that often helps the dwarves in building or mining
projects.
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WHERE DID YOU GET THE IDEA FOR HOW MARAK LOOKS?
In some ways, Marak looks like a classic folklore goblin: that's
where he gets the deformed elf ears, gray skin, deep eye sockets,
and bony, bowlegged appearance. He has brown blood just because
I thought brown blood sounded interesting and because it would naturally
tend to make his lips and fingernails unappealing. But where does
he get his unmatched eyes?
I have always been interested in the folklore descriptions that
link oddly matched eyes to magic. Many cultures around the world
identify any sort of odd-eyed person as having the Evil Eye. Odin,
the chief god of the Norse, has only one eye, which is very bright
and piercing; the other eye is gone, and his long hair covers up
the empty socket. In some mythologies, a great warrior has one eye
that changes and becomes blood red during battle while the other
eye recedes and becomes less noticeable. Some of the stories of
Cuchulain describe this happening to him. The single red eye is
so prevalent in myth that some believe it is an observation of the
red spot of the planet Jupiter.
The most clear antecedent I have for Marak, aside from the god Odin,
is the Drosselmeyer of the Nutcracker story, as he was played in
a film a few years ago that used sets by Maurice Sendak and dancers
from the Pacific Northwest Ballet. Sadly, this remarkable film is
no longer in print. The Drosselmeyer in it was hunched and cloaked
in black. While the other men around him had their hair pulled back
into the queue that men wore in the 1700's, the Drosselmeyer's
long flyaway hair was loose, and it straggled into his face. He
had only one eye, the other eye being covered by a black patch,
which is traditional for this character.
I live every day with eyes
of two different colors, so once I began to think about the
magical nature of unbalanced eyes, the rest came pretty quickly.
And I live every day with spots as well, so Marak's hair has
a black patch in it.
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WHERE DID MARAK GET HIS NAME?
I don't like making up names in a fantasy language because
it's hard to make them sound right, so Marak's name
is based on Assyrian. That language is the source as well for such
names as Katoo, Dibah, Sayada, and Dayan. The elf names in the Hollow
Kingdom world are based on Sumerian.
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DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A BIG TALKING BLACK CAT IN ANOTHER BOOK?
Large talking cats are very important in folklore, Puss in Boots
being the most famous. And there's a big tomcat who speaks
in one Irish folktale, declaring, "I'm the king of the
cats!" But Seylin has a very specific inspiration: Behemoth,
the large black tom in Mikhail Bulgakov's novel called The
Master and Margarita. Behemoth also serves a king (in this
case, the Devil himself), and he also can walk on his hind legs.
But the two talking cats have very different personalities. Behemoth
is the court jester, flamboyant and outrageous, a swashbuckling,
bragging loudmouth. My own talking cat is quite sensitive and shy,
and he's far too serious for jokes.
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WHAT DOES THE GOBLIN KING'S BEDROOM LOOK LIKE?
Marak tries to talk Kate into coming and seeing her new bedroom,
but because she refuses, the reader never finds out what it looks
like. All the royal rooms are rather grandiose and gaudy, the walls
and ceilings decorated with elaborate mosaics, just as Kate noticed
in the hallway. Because goblins don't care for representational
art, there are no portraits of ancestors or scenes from nature.
The mosaics are just interesting patterns of colored stones.
The goblin King sleeps in a bed, something that makes elvish King's
Wives very unhappy at first. Elves sleep in small tents, and they
derive a certain feeling of safety from the nearness of tent walls.
Goblin Kings, no matter how elvish, would never agree to sleep in
a tent because it is such an "elf" thing to do, so their
wives simply have to adjust. Of course, being newly married to a
goblin King is the kind of thing that makes an elf woman feel unsafe
anyway.
Aside from the main bed, there has always been another single bed
in the goblin King's bedroom because under certain circumstances,
the goblin King doesn't wind up sleeping with his wife. Then
he lets his wife have the main bed. Some goblin Kings just aren't
very comfortable to sleep with: Marak the Antlered is an example
of this type. And often the new King's Wife is so traumatized
by her capture that she becomes ill for days or even weeks. In this
case, the goblin King winds up acting as both doctor and nurse to
his wife, and he sleeps on the small bed across the room.
This happened when Adele was newly married. Marak warns Kate not
to create a scene during her wedding because his own mother's
behavior was the stuff of legend: she fought like a tiger throughout
the women's attempts to dress her and through the ceremony
itself. Taken to the small room to recover from the ordeal, she
instantly bolted for the door and "escaped." Marak Dogclaw
admired Adele's bold, adventurous nature and made it a practice
never to discourage her, so he just sat down to a quiet dinner and
let her test her limits. He knew she couldn't get into any
danger since the King's Wife spells were all in place.
Realizing that she was underground, Adele headed up at every staircase
and at last came to the water mirror cave. She decided to escape
through the water wall. Charm woke up and told her not to try it,
and she told the snake to keep its thoughts to itself, whereupon
Charm promptly bit her, making her one of only six King's
Wives who have been bitten on their wedding day. Then it crawled
off to find the King. When Marak Dogclaw arrived, he offered to
show Adele a scene in the water mirror as a kind of peace offering,
and Adele asked to see her father. She was sure Dentwood was out
with his servants, blasting his way into the goblin kingdom.
But Adele's father had tracked her with the dogs and had found
the scuff marks on the ground where she had been dragged right through
the cliff face. He realized that the old goblin tales were true.
Marak Dogclaw's water mirror magic revealed Dentwood in the
act of saying good-bye to the servants and driving away with Elizabeth.
He had abandoned his daughter in order to save her friend.
Adele was devastated by her father's betrayal and overwhelmed
by the shock of her new life. She was physically ill for days. When
she recovered, she occupied herself entirely with the goblin kingdom
and never mentioned her family again. Marak learned no stories about
his mother's childhood beyond his father's own notes,
so he exhibits genuine interest when she comes up in conversation
with humans who might know something of her past. This is also why
he and his father didn't realize Elizabeth was half elf. Neither
one knew very much about her.
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